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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non Summit Meeting.
(Episode 144)
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-Yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
We'll be looking at the ranks of each country in the "B-board Chart".
America has a Billboard Chart. Japan has an Oricon Chart.
And Korea has a "B-board Chart".
Today's ranking topic will be on the cost of living around the world.
The Economist compared New York's cost of living...
to 133 other cities in terms of...
food, medical expenses, rent, transportation, tuition, etc.,
revealing the cost of living around the world.
Is there anyone here who thinks their country made...
the top 10 most expensive countries to live in?
Do you mean cities or countries?
- Isn't is Switzerland? - Switzerland's definitely in the top 10.
After all, Switzerland is known for their high cost of living.
I can guarantee that Zurich will be in the top 10.
Tokyo too. Tokyo will be one of them too.
- Seoul will be on that list too. - Seoul too?
- Seoul is expensive. - Let's start with the ninth place.
Ninth place was taken by none other than New York, America.
- What? - Wow.
(The city of economy and tourism, New York)
It tied in ninth place with Denmark.
That surprised me. I thought it would be more expensive.
- You thought it'd be more expensive? - Yes.
But now that I think about it, that reputation probably came from the high rent.
For us, a studio apartment cost...
around 3,000 dollars in rent on average.
- In New York? - But other than that, everything else is pretty cheap.
- How much does a Big Mac cost there? - It doesn't cost that much. About 4 dollars?
Mark wouldn't know anything about that.
(He prefers restaurant food over fast food.)
(Surprised)
- What's a Big Mac? - We should've asked about how much a T-bone steak cost.
I wonder if he even knows what it looks like.
Next two countries tied in seventh place.
Seventh place was taken by Geneva, Switzerland...
- and Paris, France. - They're pretty expensive.
Paris?
(The city that bridges Europe together, Geneva)
(The center of shopping and luxury goods, Paris)
It'll still be expensive no matter where you go in Switzerland.
Going to other cities in Switzerland won't be that different from Geneva.
- What do you think is the most expensive thing in Switzerland? - Most expensive?
- Yes, what's the most expensive thing? - It's got to be food.
- You go to Italy for your pizza. - We go to other countries for a cheaper meal.
It's something only Swiss people do.
- Paris also made it on the list. - It's got to be the rent. They're expensive.
- Rent? - Yes. And like Switzerland, the cost of the food is pretty expensive too.
- Are apartments expensive too? - Yes. The rent is expensive.
Once, I talked about the rooms that maids used to live in.
It's smaller than a goshiwon. It doesn't have a bathroom either. They share it...
That's why Paris and my hometown...
- Right now, the rents are regulated. - They're regulated?
Yes.
Sixth place was taken by Seoul, South Korea.
- Wow. - We made it on the list too?
- I don't get it. - That doesn't make sense.
- Why not? - It can't compare to how expensive it is to live in Paris.
- You're saying Paris is more expensive? - This list was compiled by UK's Economist.
- They probably compared the average. - Yes.
- I'm sure it's not comparing only the rent. - Yes.
- But I also think it's surprising that Seoul ranked higher than Paris. - Yes.
Which city is above ours?
Fifth place was taken by Osaka, Japan.
And fourth place was taken by Tokyo, Japan.
- Tokyo? - Tokyo.
(Japan's second biggest city and center of shopping, Osaka)
(First place when it comes to economy, Tokyo)
The food is expensive. So is the rent.
And the public utility charges are high.
The transportation fees are super pricey.
- They are. - So are the taxi fares.
Taxi fares are expensive too. Everything's expensive.
When I went to Japan, I was shocked.
I didn't know. Just like in Korea,
I was going to take a taxi when I went to Japan too.
- When I rode it from Narita to the downtown of Tokyo... - That's far.
That cost me 300 dollars.
- Why did you ride that? - I didn't know.
- He paid 300 dollars. - I didn't know.
In Korea, the basic fares are around three dollars.
- Korea is cheap. - Yes, it's cheap in Korea.
- They're cheap. - Yes, they're cheap.
- Is it? - Yes. They're very cheap.
In Korea, 2km is included in the three dollars.
But the fare starts to go up when we get in the car.
When we're out with three to four friends,
- it's more cheap? - Yes, it's cheaper to ride the taxi...
- than the subway. - That's true.
I wonder which cities ranked first, second, and third?
First, second, and third? In third place...
It was Zurich, Switzerland.
It's Switzerland again.
Hong Kong came in second.
And Singapore took first place.
The top ranks were taken over by Asian cities.
If it was only in terms of rent prices, New Delhi would have made the list too.
New Delhi's rent prices are very expensive.
I'm sorry but New Delhi was one of the cities in the top 10 cheapest cities.
You could have given me some time before you said that.
The city of Bengaluru, Chennai, Mumbai, and New Delhi in India...
- were all listed in the top 10 cheapest cities to live in. - Really?
- Really? - Yes.
(B-Board Chart, The Most Expensive Cities To Live In)
(B-Board Chart, The Cheapest Cities To Live In)
Seoul took sixth place.
When you came to Seoul, was there anything you thought that was overpriced here?
I think fruits are too expensive here.
- That's true. - That's true.
Fruits in Korea are really expensive.
One mango cost around nine dollars.
I can understand mangoes because they're imported.
But things like strawberries. Even when they're grown locally...
In Italy, a kg of strawberries cost three euros. The most expensive ones.
For apples, we have a lot of different types.
The cheapest apples cost 50 cent for a kg.
If you buy apples that are more expensive,
you can buy one or two kg of apples for two to three dollars.
In Korea, one apples cost one dollar.
- Yes. - That's really expensive.
In Mexico, you can just pick the mangoes off the trees.
You can just pick them and eat them for free.
I can't eat any in Korea because they're too expensive.
How much does a kg of mangoes cost in Mexico?
- Mangoes? - They must be cheap there.
It wouldn't even cost 10 dollars.
It's the same for India. I work with agriculture.
Not only is it for fruits but other crops as well like potatoes and rice...
They're so expensive in Korea. In India, potatoes...
cost 20 cent for a kg.
Not only are fruits expensive,
but milk and dairy products like cheese are expensive too.
In Germany, I usually just eat cereal and milk for breakfast.
But in Korea, because I have to buy the milk, I ended up not eating cereals anymore.
- Coffee is expensive too here. - That's true.
- Coffee's so expensive. - It's ridiculous.
- It's really expensive. - Korea has that kind of culture...
where you always have to go get coffee after dinner.
My friend treated me to dinner and I said I'll treat them to coffee.
- But... - Was the coffee more expensive?
The coffee was more expensive.
How can they sell a tiny espresso for four dollars?
How much is an espresso in Europe?
The expensive ones cost a euro while the cheap ones cost 80 cent.
That's like a dollar or a dollar and 50 cent.
Movie theaters are expensive too.
- They are? - They are.
It's true the popcorns are expensive.
- How much does it cost in Mexico? - Well,
a movie ticket costs about...
three to four dollars per person.
But in Korea, the cheapest ticket you can get is eight dollars.
- It's more expensive during the weekends. - When I go with a friend,
it'll cost twice as much.
- And the popcorn... - After popcorn, it would cost us around 30 dollars.
It's very cheap when you go at dawn.
- Like 1am, 5am, or 6am... - You mean the matinees?
- But those times are so... - It's hard to go during those times.
The most expensive thing about movies are the popcorn.
- The tickets are expensive too. - Well...
How much does it cost to watch a movie in America?
Movies are actually pretty expensive. It's getting more expensive as time goes by.
- A ticket costs around 15 to 20 dollars? - That's expensive.
- Us too. - How about Switzerland?
It costs us around 20 dollars a ticket.
- See? - Is that true?
- Us too. - In Japan, it costs 18 dollars.
It costs 22 dollars when you watch it in 3D.
- Is that true? - Wow.
As an Italian, I feel that in Korea...
- eating out... - Yes.
is very cheap.
It's expensive if you go out to an expensive restaurant but...
- Things like stir fried spicy pork... - Yes.
Things like those and the side dishes stores are actually cheaper and tastier.
- They give a lot too. - They're so good.
We also get a lot of side dishes like kimchi, namul,
- fish paste and so on. - They give us a lot.
- And water's free. - Yes. Water's free.
And there's no tip culture. It's really good.
To compare the cost of living between the countries,
let's pretend we only have 50 dollars to feed...
a family of four.
What kind of food can you eat with that?
What shall we eat today with 50 dollars?
In Korea, there's a lot you can eat with that.
- There's a lot. - There's meat.
- Having 50 dollars... - You can eat a lot.
A serving of pork belly is always fluctuating between several dollars.
What can you guys eat with 50 dollars?
With 50 dollars,
we can't even buy four set meals from McDonald's.
- You can't? - What?
That's so sad. You can't even eat McDonald's.
- "Dad, you're not eating?" "I'll be fine." - "I have a stomachache..."
"I'll be fine with just the fries."
A Big Mac set will cost about 15 dollars.
- That's why... - A Big Mac set?
If you want to eat pizza, it'll cost each person...
- about 25 to 30 dollars so... - Wow.
- You won't be able to afford two pizzas. - You really need to go to Italy.
That's why we always go to Italy.
How about France?
You can only eat fast food like McDonald's.
- Really? - Yes.
- What about a sandwich? - How much would it cost at a restaurant?
If you go to a restaurant, it'll cost over 10 euros per person.
- Wow. - Per person?
In German, you might have to eat kebab.
- Like gyro? - Kebab?
Yes, you might have to eat kebab.
If you go to a restaurant, it'll cost 10 dollars per person.
You can order food for four, but when you order drinks,
you can only order two or three.
It'll be hard for four people to eat with that.
In Canada, if you want to eat really well, coupons are a must.
There are many people who use coupons there. You can use them in restaurants too.
You can eat chicken among other things.
What can you eat in China with 50 dollars?
- As long as you don't go to expensive places, you can eat anything. - Anything?
Yes. You can eat Chinese food...
or Western food...
- Xinlin... - Western food?
- Western food? - Food from the West?
You can eat those too, as long as you don't go to expensive restaurants.
- How about Beijing duck? - Beijing duck is too small and expensive for four people.
- They're... - Aren't there any set meals?
We don't have any set meals.
You can eat a feast in Pakistan, can't you?
Actually, with 50 dollars, you can hold a party with 20 people.
- A feast? - It's a party.
- A village party. - Yes. There's a restaurant that delivers for a large group.
If you have 50 dollars, you can hold a party for 20 people.
- What can you eat with that? - You can buy 10kg of rice...
and 10 chickens.
- Did you say 10 chickens? - Yes. There's this dish called chicken biryani.
- Does that applies to big cities too? - Yes.
- That's crazy. - How will they make any profit?
- Islamabad is the capital city of Pakistan. - Yes?
In Islamabad, there's a very expensive restaurant on a mountain there.
First, you can put 10 dollars worth of gas in your car.
Then, you can drive there and eat all you want.
After that you can go home with 8 dollars to spare.
- With four people? - Yes.
- You can even put in some gas? - Yes.
That means you can eat for 32 dollars, right?
Yes, you can eat all you want with 32 dollars.
Pakistan ranked third when it came to being the cheapest country in the world.
What can you eat in Mexico for 50 dollars?
Actually, in Mexico, the food we eat the most...
are tacos and quesadillas. They're all very cheap.
Five taco will cost you around two dollars and 50 cents.
Really?
- That's so cheap. - You can also party with 20 people in Mexico too.
Don't you get full from five tacos?
Yes. You'll still have a lot of money left after feeding four people.
- What about enchilada? - Even the most expensive ones cost around three dollars.
Really? Even though it's chicken?
Yes.
In terms of beef,
even if you bought several kg of it, it wouldn't even cost 10 dollars.
- Wow, that's so nice. - Let's go.
- This somehow makes me happy. - Yes.
It makes me feel full.
Yes. Thanks for the food.
Yes.
Anyway, Seoul placed sixth on the most expensive city.
- It's tough. - You guys have it tough.
Please keep doing your best.
We'll be starting our main discussion.
(Main Discussion)
This is a time where we listen to various issues of each respective countries.
We talk about all kinds of issues in "Global Side Dishes Time".
This is Lucky's topic.
In India, doctors are frequently assaulted by the patients' families.
The doctors have been coming together to protest against violence.
Some even come into their office wearing helmets.
I would like to hear what everyone thinks about this issue.
Patients that aren't satisfied with the examination results...
have been constantly assaulting their doctors there.
It caused the doctors to fight back against the violence. How did this happen?
Recently, in a pediatric hospital, a doctor was drawing blood.
But she ended up drawing too much. The patient's family got angry and assaulted her.
After that incident, people just couldn't keep in their anger and emotions.
For example, when someone in the family passes away, they assault the doctors.
About 4,000 doctors in Mumbai...
went on strike, saying they wouldn't go to the hospital.
And in New Delhi, because of the protests, they've been wearing helmets to work.
It says all the doctors used their vacation days to go on a protest.
The Indian health authorities...
warned them that if they don't return to work, they will cut 6 months of their pay.
But the doctors have been resisting, saying it's a violation of their rights.
Do you think we need a harsher penalty for...
people who target and attack people with certain occupations?
If you think so, please press the button.
Lucky? Xinlin pressed it too.
(Harsher Penalty For Attack On People With Certain Occupations, Agree 5, Disagree 6)
Are you talking about attack on people who work in public services? Like police...
- That could be the case. - America has a harsh penalty for that, right?
Yes, America does. Policemen, firefighters, doctors, nurses...
It's because the work that these people do are things like...
protecting the public and maintain safety. That's their job.
The safety of a lot of people depends on these very people.
I think there should be a law that protects these group of people.
- That's true. - I don't really like how...
its only for a certain group of people.
- I know their jobs are important. - Yes?
But if you say their jobs are special, what about the others?
- If you don't work in those fields, are people are allowed to hit you? - No.
- No, that's not... - No, wait...
- That's not what... - It's because their jobs are a little different.
- That's... - Their jobs are always exposing them to danger.
And there are cases where they have to do what they have to do.
If they don't do what they're supposed to do, they'll be putting everyone in danger.
Wait, then instead of making a law for a certain group of people,
they should just make heavier penalties for assault.
He's right. I agree.
Why is it only for certain people?
- If it's applied to everyone, it won't be as effective. - I want to say something.
People with special occupations like doctors...
have a higher probability of being assaulted.
Their patients' families could blame them for not saving them.
They blame them, saying they should have done better. They get very emotional.
And that leads to assault. Normal laws won't be as effective.
I believe they need special laws to protect them.
Wait, I understand there can be instances where you're assaulted like that.
But there shouldn't be a special law to protect only those special people.
I believe all should be equal before the law.
I think what Oogi said is right. I believe crimes of assault...
should all be made to receive heavier sentences.
- But... - But even if it wasn't these specific fields,
doesn't Germany have a special law?
They do. They do have it but...
- I don't think it's right. - Aren't campaigns more effective than law for this?
- He's right. - When criminals assault someone,
- they don't think about the law. - That's right.
- But what's your opinion on this? - But...
- If they would just take preventive measures... - Yes.
Or you can think about it this way.
Besides doctors and police officers,
there are other occupations more vulnerable to assaults too.
For example, stewardesses or train workers.
They can't run away from it.
Can't you think of this as being something to protect those vulnerable people?
- Wait, but... - But that's not...
I think everyone has a good point.
But trying to solve this by making a heavier sentence...
isn't a very good solution because it discriminates people.
Bank employees have a high chance of being assaulted too.
Even postal workers can get assaulted. It can be applied to a wide range of people.
Like he said, we should do a lot of campaigns...
and find other methods to protect those type of people.
But the world is already full of discrimination.
- Whether something like this is there or not... - Wait.
Xinlin, that's because there's no regulation.
This applies to such a wide range of people that...
It would also apply to the teachers too.
- But people... - Wait...
This means that everyone will be protected under this law anyways.
Also, if you acknowledge this as a problem,
you can just hire more security guards to protect them.
- That's also another solution. - It's very...
But it's not only about the physical assaults.
There are also verbal attacks.
Security guards can't do anything about that.
They could help them.
- They can cover with their bodies... - And cover the attacker's mouth.
They could communicate through letters or install a thick glass between them...
- for when they talk to each other... - That's too inhumane.
But if it keeps happening, you should adjust to the situation.
Since it doesn't happen a lot in Italy...
I guess installing a glass wall could be an option too.
Just because there are harsher penalties...
- doesn't mean it's effective in stopping assaults. - They'd still do it.
- It's the same. - Would people still attack if the penalty was 10 times as high?
I think it'll be effective against the cowards.
Cowards won't hit people.
You're using so many terms that are easy for us to understand.
- He explains everything so simply. - It's easy to hear.
- He doesn't waste any words. - Using words like cowards...
- People don't... - Scaredy-cats.
People don't really know what penalties apply to which crimes.
- Yes. - That's true.
Like what Aurélien said, we really need something like a campaign.
People need to be educated.
I tend to believe that every single issue in India stems from its lack of education.
It has a huge population but...
nearly 30 percent of them don't go to school. They don't know how to act rationally.
Lucky, if you think this is due to education, shouldn't you have not pressed that?
It's not about strengthening the law.
This is what I think. Everyone's equal under the law.
Whether it's the president or a diplomat,
they should be both penalized the same way.
But there's one exception.
Let's say I was a doctor and I was on my way to do a surgery somewhere.
I was about to do it when they assaulted me.
- They put another person in danger because of their actions. - Yes.
They caused more damage this way.
The patient died because I was assaulted.
- In those case, they should get a harsher penalty. - I don't know too much,
but in Canada, if a policeman...
is attacked by a regular citizen,
do they receive the same penalty? Is there a protective law for policemen?
- There is in Canada. - Let's talk more about that.
Lately, we see a lot of these through videos and the news.
There were many cases where people on the bus assaulted the driver.
Even taxi drivers were prone to these abuse. It's become very severe.
Korea has started to apply harsher penalties...
for assault on certain groups of people.
Are there certain occupations where the assailant would be penalized heavily?
In America, there are many laws protecting first responders.
People like policemen, firefighters, or nurses...
If you attack people working in those occupations,
you can be charged for felony. That's a serious crime.
- You can be sentenced to jail for 15 years. - Did you say 15 years?
- Yes, 15 years. - That's too severe.
Also people vulnerable to attacks...
- People who work in transit services... - Transit?
like trains, subways, or planes...
If they assault those people,
they can be charged with felon and receive a sentence up to seven years.
Was the physical abuse that happened to a flight attendant...
recently in Korea also a felony of seven years?
It would be if it happened in the US.
The employees working on the train have this written on their uniforms.
If you assault a train crew member, you will receive a seven year sentence.
- I see. It's written on the uniform. - It's seven years.
- It's written on the uniform. - That's a good idea.
Sir, here is what you ordered.
"Why is the food like this?"
"Gosh. Thank you for the food."
(After he spots the warning message, his attitude changes.)
We have a similar law as well. If you hit or threaten a public servant,
you will be punished for it.
If you abuse a public servant, you'll receive a three-year sentence...
or a 5,000 dollar fine. You have to pay the fine.
In Germany,
we did have several instances of police officers being targeted.
- We had over 60,000 cases of abuse. - This is abuse targeted at officers, right?
- Yes. - Really?
(The police have been shown countless time being physically assaulted.)
(It's a job that is physically exhausting.)
(Many police officer receive serious physical injuries or lose their lives.)
So starting from this year, they are trying to add additional punishments...
for any abuse to police officers or firefighters.
In our country, we have fundamental laws...
to punish anyone who abuses police officers.
The people who do will receive punishment.
Also, the punishment for defamation and slander is a little different.
If someone slanders a politician or a public official,
the person who committed the crime will receive punishment, too.
In the town of Granby in Québec, they made a strange new law.
It's a law that forbids people from cursing at public servants or police officers.
You'll get caught if you curse at them.
This law only applies in Granby.
In France,
if you physically abuse a judge,
lawyer, a police officer or anyone that works in the law,
that you'll be punished for it.
This law also applies to firefighters and doctors too.
Apart from these professions,
if you physically abuse your family or an underage person,
then you'll receive a prison sentence.
Is there an occupation in your country...
where it's easy to spot the thoughtless abuse of the few?
- Pakistan is similar to India. Doctors are abused a lot. - Goodness me.
So, there was a survey done just recently,
and we found that almost 70 percent of the doctors had received some sort of abuse.
Among this group, 19 percent claimed to have been physically abused.
And almost half of all the doctors were abused verbally.
This is especially the case for the younger doctors.
- Is that so? - Yes.
In China, to try and protect judges,
- there is a lot of talk about the creation of a new law. - Judges.
In 2017 alone, we had two atrocious incidents.
There was a retired judge who was at home. Around 22 years ago,
he had found a man guilty of domestic abuse and approved a divorce.
He was killed by this person.
- Goodness. - Yes, another judge...
was attacked by a person who was unhappy with a ruling.
The judge was stabbed with a knife. He is in critical condition.
It was revenge.
In Japan, the people who take care of the elderly are abused a lot.
It was voted the most difficult job to do.
The reason for this is because no matter how much the patients physically abuse you,
or verbally abuse you, you still have to smile and work.
So in a survey done on the people in this industry,
almost 90 percent of the people claimed that they had been abused in some way.
In Canada, the teaching profession is a very stressful job.
In the province of British Columbia,
there have been 115 teachers who have been...
physically hurt and are unwilling to work.
Did the students hit them?
- Yes. There are many cases like this in high schools and universities. - Gosh.
One incident that I remember was in a drawing class,
there was a student who couldn't draw. So the student went to the teacher...
and said, "If you don't give me a 90, I'll destroy your car."
- Goodness me. - So, he got the score he wanted.
- Did that really happen? - The student got a 90?
- I mean... - It must've been an expensive car.
Isn't it the same in Korea?
- It's a serious problem in Korea as well. - You're right.
I have a friend who works in the education sector.
If the teacher says something,
the student replies, "What are you going to do? Do you have proof?"
"Hit me." But he can't hit the student.
- What can we do about that? - The teacher has no authority in Korea.
In New Delhi, there are auto rickshaw drivers,
a lot of people use that form of transportation every day.
Since the driver are low income earners,
a lot of people look down on them and abuse them.
A lot of passengers know this, so they try to rile them up.
For example, they took this from here to there,
normally it would be two dollars.
- But you might have to pay 2 dollars and 50 cents because of the traffic. - Yes.
They argue and call them a swindler.
They never pay the amount that is indicated, but rather, they try to cut the price.
In the US, a lot of flight attendants get cursed out.
Or they might get physically abused.
Among the many cases, there was a very famous incident.
It happened to a flight attendant on JetBlue airline.
He had worked on the airline for over 20 years.
But incidents like this happen all the time, right? The plane might arrive...
- and the passengers try to get up before it is safe. - Right.
He kept apologizing and asking the passenger to stay in their seat.
He was cursed at and the passenger complained about him.
He had accepted abuse like this for 20 years, but he couldn't take it anymore.
- So, he suddenly grabbed the microphone and made an announcement. - He talked.
He said, "I've accepted abuse for over 20 years, but I can't take it anymore."
Afterward, he grabbed a beer...
and opened the emergency door and slid down. That's how he quit.
(I've taken abuse for over 20 years. I can't take anymore.)
(He took the beer cans and left after he opened the emergency door.)
(He heads towards freedom.)
- That was really cool. - He's so cool.
- That's incredible. - He's so cool.
- He quit in a very cool way. - Do you think he was fined?
Is this a beer commercial?
(Opening the can)
This is the taste of life.
"If you're working too hard, just quit."
- And then he slides down. - As you mentioned just now,
there were many people who thought that he had quit in a cool way.
But it is still against the law to open the emergency door and slide down.
He had to go to court because of it.
(He was fined 10,000 dollars and was sentenced to 1 year probation.)
Recently, a high-school trainee at a customer service center,
took her own life due to excessive emotional and mental strain.
We must never forget the fact that everyone is a precious child to someone.
Yes. We'll find out "What Is So Important?" next week too.
Let's bring in the Korean representative for today.
This person is a master of acting, it's the Actor Yoon Je-moon.
She's the easy going actress. It's the Actress Jung So-min.
(The 144th Korean representative Yoon Je-moon and Jung So-min)
- Hello. - Hello.
(Welcome)
Please take a seat.
(Everyone sits down.)
It's not often that the atmosphere gets serious because of a guest.
It might be because he's come in a suit.
Could you please introduces yourselves?
Hello. I'm Yoon Je-moon.
- It's nice to meet you. - Okay.
(It's nice to meet you.)
Hello. I'm the Actress Jung So-min.
It's nice to meet you.
(Welcome)
Have you ever watched a movie with Yoon Je-moon in it?
I watched "New World".
- I wasn't in that. - He wasn't in that.
- Goodness me. - What was that?
- You just guessed. - It might seem like a movie he would be in.
I saw "The Last Princess".
- Yes. - Right. "The Last Princess".
- Yes. "The Last Princess". - I really enjoyed "Fists of Legend".
Right. "Fists of Legend".
Weren't you in the old drama, "Iris"?
- The drama "Iris". - Yes. "Iris".
- I see. "Iris". - That was a long time ago.
Aurélien was the only one who got it wrong.
- But he did try. - "New World" does seem like a movie that you'd be in.
- It does feel like a movie you'd be in. - We do get that feeling.
You were in "Master" not "New World", right?
- What? - I'm talking about the movie.
I wasn't in that.
- We thought you were in it. - There are a lot of people who look similar.
- I was in "Asura". - Right. "Asura".
Yes, it was "Asura".
- It was his most recent movie. - "Asura" and "Master" sounds similar.
Are you normally very picky with who you talk to?
Or is it because you find it a little strange talking with foreigners?
I mean... I'm enjoying this.
- Are you enjoying this? - Yes.
He's not a person who often comes on variety shows.
- Right. - It would be uncomfortable.
It's nice. I feel like I'm in Itaewon.
So-min, have you watched our program before?
I watch it almost every week.
- Really? - Is that true?
Who did you want to meet the most?
I really find this fascinating.
- Do you find it fascinating? - I still can't believe I'm here.
Mark is starting to get nervous again.
(Embarrassed)
He's thinking of this as a blind date again.
(Mark is struggling again.)
I had watched this almost from when the show first started.
I wanted to meet Guillaume and Alberto. I had seen them the most.
- Right. - Yes. I had seen them longer.
She really is a fan of the show.
- I'm curious to hear Je-moon and So-min's issue. - Yes.
"Family can feel like the people who are the closest and the farthest from you."
That's why I brought forth this issue.
- "What daughters say..." - "And what fathers say..."
- "can be difficult to understand." - " can be difficult to understand."
- "Are we abnormal?" - "Are we abnormal?"
- Yes. - I see.
They must really have a bad relationship.
I can sense that these two are purposefully pretending to be close.
They're like a sulky father and daughter.
- In the movie, the two of you play father and daughter, right? - Yes.
- Yes. - Could you introduce the movie to us?
One day, out of the blue,
the father and daughter switches bodies and the film shows what happens.
They had a bad relationship, but through this, they start to understand each other.
- Je-moon, you have a daughter... - You have a daughter, right?
Yes, I have two daughters.
Did your relationship with your daughters change after the filming ended?
- Did it? - No, not really.
Aren't you being a little too honest?
Shouldn't you give a different answer for the promotion of the film?
- You're a professional actor. - Right.
Well, yes... There were things that I understood better about her.
There weren't any real big changes.
It's the same.
How is your relationship with your dad?
To be honest, during that period,
I found my dad to be an uncomfortable person to be around.
But now, my dad has become softer,
and my ability to understand and accept people has grown larger, too.
So, recently,
I went to watch a movie with my dad alone for the first time.
- Wasn't it uncomfortable? - It was really nice.
(It was really nice.)
(We hope you go see movies together more often.)
- This is a question about family. - Yes.
Let's start our discussion about fathers and daughters...
struggle to understand each other.
(Official debate)
Today we're going to be talking about the conflicts caused by a generational gap.
Let's start by talking about how each country...
differentiates the differences in generations.
In Italy,
we can tell which generation they belong to by looking at what day they have fun.
In Korea, the day to have fun is Friday, right?
- For us, it isn't Friday anymore, rather it's Thursday. - Thursday.
Most people go out to have fun on Thursdays.
You only have one day until the weekend.
And you can take a rest on Saturday.
- I see. So, people are like zombies on Friday. - Yes.
When people go to work on Monday, some people...
will ask what you did on Saturday night.
- This person would be considered an old person. - I see.
Do they have fun on Thursday and Friday?
- Yes. - They go out for two nights and rest on Saturday.
- If you have the energy. - I think the older generation is angry.
(Look at him)
I was just curious.
- They go out on Friday night as well. - Yes, that's right.
- Yes, that's what young people do. - In Switzerland, we look at the Tyre.
In the winter,
if you want to drive up the mountains, then you need to install snow chains.
It's something that the younger generation can't do.
This is something that only the older generation does.
They also carry around a pocket handkerchief to blow their nose.
- My father carries one. - My father carries one, too.
- Yes. - Don't you do this in Switzerland?
- Hold on. - Right. Don't they blow their nose like this?
They’re accurate. The person gets it into the rubbish bin.
Yes. They get it into the rubbish bin.
Je-moon, you can do it, right?
I tried it. But it just landed on my face.
- You don't know how to do it. - You don't have the power.
- It has to go flying. - It has to go flying like a tissue.
If it lands on your face, you have to wipe it like this.
- It shouldn't do that. - No, it shouldn't.
In China, when someone praises you, the reaction is different.
- Right. - With people in my parent's generation,
they'll try to be modest.
If you praise someone around my age, they'll agree with you.
- Xinlin, your stories a little boring. - Xinlin...
My nephew is currently in elementary school,
she asks if she did well even before you say anything.
- "Uncle, I did well, right?" - Yes.
I realized that each generation is different.
Listening to that, I realized when you praise young children,
it would be strange if they acted modestly.
- That would be scary if they reacted like that. - Children should be lively.
"Don't embarrass me with comments like that."
It would sound strange, right?
A lot of people in France don't receive praise often.
They feel flustered by praise, so that's how they react.
When they are praised, they just nod and agree.
What we found most surprising was...
- how foreigners just accepted praise easily. - That's right.
Hyun-moo, if you praise Alberto, he'll praise you right back.
- I'm a guy, and I think you're good-looking. - Thank you.
Gosh. He's so annoying.
Could you praise him?
Hyun-moo, I feel that you're the best MC right now.
That's just the truth.
- He's weird. - It's just the truth.
- How can you be the best? - I am the best.
He's just terrible.
(Letting his true feelings out)
- He must've really hated it. - In Japan, when you go on a date,
the generational gap can be seen whether the boyfriend makes old jokes.
- That's very important. - They do it in Japan as well.
Yes, we have something similar in Japan.
- They have something similar in Japan. - Yes.
That makes it sound like an old joke.
- Old joke. - The girlfriend hates the jokes.
There's a ranking of actions that girlfriends would like their boyfriends not to do.
- What is that? - That sounds very Japanese.
Coming at number three, it's washing the face with a wet towel.
(Number three, washing their face with a wet towel)
- I see. - It's refreshing.
The most stunning visual would be when they hang the towel over their neck.
(Putting the wet towel over their neck)
- When you hang it over the neck. - Right.
Do you do it?
- Do you do it? - He's agreeing with it.
Another thing that girlfriends hate is when the man...
uses a toothpick without covering his mouth.
- Gosh. - That is disgusting.
- Is that right? - You'd be called an old man.
The number one thing that girlfriends hate the most...
is when the man burps or farts without considering her feelings.
(I see.)
I'm perfect.
Do you do any of these three actions?
I don't use a toothpick. I just do this.
That's the best.
- He's blowing it out. - He does that to get it out of his teeth.
That's nice. That is more difficult to do than this one.
Is it more difficult to do?
If something gets stuck on my teeth, I do this.
Sometimes, it doesn't work.
- She could hate you if you do this in front of a girl in Japan. - Be careful.
We need to be careful about the music that we like.
We have a list. If you like a song on that list, it means your an old man.
- Do you know the song, "Barbie Girl"? - Yes.
- The song by Aqua. - Right. Aqua.
(With a fast beat and happy lyrics, it was a song loved all around the world.)
- I remembered instantly. - I'm a Barbie girl
You also know, "MMMbop", right?
Yes, we do.
(Automatically singing)
I've gotten so old.
(They can't hide their natural reaction.)
Do you also know, "Everybody" by Backstreet Boys?
(This song helped make the Backstreet Boys the biggest idol group in the US.)
(They sold over 14 million albums worldwide.)
(Their vocal cords instantly react.)
(He's looking at them with a fascinating expression.)
- We know the song. - This is the 20th year since it was released.
- Goodness. - Has it already been that long?
- So-min, you know the song "Barbie Girl", right? - I know all the songs.
- She probably heard the songs. - Welcome.
(Welcome to the old people's group.)
So-min, how do you differentiate between the younger and older groups?
How do you feel about the difference?
- What is your criteria? - How do you define old?
It's the easiest to compare with your family's generation, right?
I feel the gap a lot when I go traveling with my family.
When we take a photo, they always...
- take a photo behind a scene. - Right.
(They understand.)
- They're at the center with a scene behind them. - Your parents profile picture.
Yes. When they go hiking.
- They're always standing in front of flowers. - Right.
(A normal profile photo for older parents.)
(I thought I was looking at a photo of my parents.)
(Laughing hard)
Our opinions are in for a collision course.
If I feel that it'd be better to have the person at the side, and take the photo.
They would complain and ask why I took the photo like that.
They tell me it has no meaning.
The message on the social network communicating programs...
- are different depending on the generation, right? - Yes.
Older generation people would have something like, "My life is thrilling".
They have messages like that.
- "Bravo, my life". - Yes, they'll have something like that.
- "Bravo, my life". - Yes.
- What about the younger generation? - They'll express their emotions.
It changes often, too.
- "Going round and round". - "Going round and round".
(Cringing)
I'm sure you must've felt a generational gap with your parents.
When did you feel it?
I felt the generational gap when I quit my first job.
It's because during my parent's generation, you did a job for life.
- Right. - My father worked for one company his whole life.
I wanted to experience something different, so I quit. I told my parents...
and they had this stunned expression. "Mark, what have you done?"
"Mark, go back to the office tomorrow..."
"and tell your boss in a nice way that you want to come back."
"They'll probably reinstate you."
(They wanted him to go back to work.)
"Mom. Dad. I already quit. It's over."
My parents probably thought it was better to work for one company.
That was a generational gap that I felt.
When my father was 25,
he got a loan for 20,000 dollars and built his own house.
He paid off the loan a few years later.
You can feel several different generational gaps in this one sentence.
Firstly, it's impossible to build a house with only a loan of 20,000 dollars.
Also, it takes about 30 years to repay a loan.
- Right. - Also, there are very few people who would build their own house, right?
So, I felt the generational gap through that.
When I wear ripped jeans, my mom always says...
"The cold wind is going to enter through that gap in your knee..."
"and your knees will hurt when you get older."
So, if you want to wear ripped jeans in my household,
then you have to wear long johns in the inside.
You have to wear a layer.
- You have to wear long johns. - Why?
"Wear long johns in the inside."
My mom said, "You'll thank me later."
"You'll thank me because your knees don't hurt."
(She's worried about her son's knees.)
(Carefully)
Nik, you're 20 something... How old are you?
- I'm 25. - You're 25 and you've felt a generational gap?
I can already feel the generational gap with my younger brothers.
My two younger sisters are 14 and 17.
- When I first saw Pokémon, there were only 151 monsters. - Pokémon.
But now, there are 600 monsters.
- How can you memorize all of those? - How can you memorize 151 monsters?
- Well... - I've memorized 151 monsters.
I've memorized 151 monsters as well.
- I think I know almost all of them. - That's...
How many do you think you know?
- I know I know 300. - Do you know 300?
Shall we get you to have a competition with Nik?
I only know Pikachu.
- I only know Pikachu. - Me too.
- I don't know any. - Je-moon, your expression right now...
Je-moon, I think you're feeling the generational gap right now.
When do you feel the generational gap?
I think it's when I talk to younger people.
Especially when they use abbreviations.
Which one was the most difficult for you?
Things like "Heck, no jam"?
- Did you say "Heck, no jam?"? - "Heck, no jam"?
- There's no jam? - There's no jam?
There were so many with those bad words...
- Like "cool AF"? - Yes.
- "Heck Jam". - Like "cool AF"...
- Because we tend to do a lot of shows, we know these words. - Yes.
But when we use them, it doesn't really good for us.
- It doesn't feel natural coming from us. - Yes.
- When I see old men use "GMYN", it makes them look so bad. - What does that mean?
Give me your number?
That's so gross.
- GMYN is in trend these days. - GMYN?
- GMYN. - People really use that to get people's numbers?
- They just say, "Hey, GMYN?" Like this? - Yes.
Hey, GMYN?
(Give me your number?)
It sounds like of French.
When French people make up a slang,
they use the "Verlan" method.
"Verlan" method is where you switch the front with the back of a word.
For example, "Daebak" will be "Bakdae".
They're switched.
Anyway, this was really popular back in the 90s.
It's old?
We don't use it much anymore.
It's not as popular as it used to be. If people see someone using that,
they look like someone from the 90s, like me.
All right. How about America?
In my generation, we used words like "cool" and "awesome".
In fact, we sometimes use "rad" too.
But the younger people these days use "That's dope" or "It's lit".
How was your date?
Awesome.
(Awesome was used to describe something awesome.)
(You're lit. We're lit)
(Nowadays, people use "lit" and "dope".)
(It's gonna be lit tonight.)
(It's used with a lot of swag.)
In China, if you say "I'm so sad I want to cry", people tend to think you're old.
These days, you have to say you're a "blue mushroom".
- What? - You have to say "blue mushroom".
Because once, a foreigner on TV...
tried to say "I'm so sad I want to cry" on the show.
But he couldn't pronounce it well, so people thought he was saying "blue mushroom".
How do you say, "I'm sad" originally?
(I'm so sad I want to cry.)
How about "blue mushroom"?
(Blue mushroom.)
(Blue...)
(mushroom.)
His pronunciation was cute so people started copying him.
- It's because it sounds similar. - Yes.
Not that long ago, we were talking about slangs when someone asked what "Bidam" was.
- "Bidam"? - I thought it was Non Summit Meeting. They laughed at me.
- What does it mean? - "In charge of visuals".
- Really? - That's what it means?
When they asked that question, I raised my hand shouting Non Summit Meeting.
(He shouted, "Non Summit Meeting".)
- It means they're good looking, right? - They asked me what "Sikang" was.
- I know that one. - You do?
- It means "center of attention". - Yes.
But I said "time instructor".
"Time instructor"?
- "Time instructor"? - I can't understand anything.
I yelled out, "Time instructor".
(Even if you don't know, do it with confidence.)
Even if the parents are really close with their children,
there are still some topics that are awkward to talk about.
Are there any topics that are considered taboo to talk about?
Alberto?
- In Italy, we don't talk about marriage with our parents. - That's so nice.
- I was so surprised when I came here. - Really?
An Italian parent asking "When are you going to get married?"...
"Hurry up and get married." These phrases...
are very awkward when they're spoken in Italian.
Don't they say anything to their son when he...
starts getting really old and is still single?
- They might have said something before, but these days, they don't... - Nothing?
They don't say anything. When their child wants to marry,
it's just natural for them to go and tell them they want to marry.
It's somewhat similar in Canada. When you introduce your girlfriend to your family,
even if they don't like her, they never say anything.
- They'd never say, "I don't like her" because it might hurt her. - How respectful.
Also, they would never tell you to lose weight.
There was a time when I was fat.
My parents never told me to lose weight.
They ask if I'm stressed or working out.
But because they don't tell people to lose weight, obesity is a big issue in Canada.
- Isn't "Are you working out?" the same as "Go lose weight"? - No.
- They should be straightforward. - "Are you working out?"
It wouldn't make you feel as bad.
I actually gained five kg the last three months,
but they have not said a thing.
Je-moon, do you know whether your daughter has a boyfriend or not?
Do you know about her boyfriend?
Her mother told me that she was dating someone...
He's really old. He said "Her mother".
(Her father, Je-moon)
When you heard about it,
did you...
No, I didn't do that.
Stop watching so many dramas.
I was drinking juice when I...
He was drinking juice.
It really doesn't matter to me.
Wow, you're very calm about this.
In China, when you move out of your parent's house,
you don't really tell them much about how you're really living.
Although a lot of people want to go live in big cities like Beijing and Shanghai,
there aren't a lot of jobs there and the rent is really expensive.
Therefore, there are a lot of people living in basements in the city.
They don't want to worry their parents so they don't talk about it.
Even though I live in a studio right now,
I still haven't told my mother anything about it, in case I worry her.
What kind of place does your mother think you live in?
She thinks I live in an apartment near the school.
- She hasn't visited even once? - Not even once.
Don't you video chat with your mother?
- This is so sad. - When I video chat with her, I'm on my bed.
When my mother ask me to show her my room,
I tell her it's messy and try to change the subject.
(Xinlin can't show his mother how he lives in Seoul.)
You might think this would be kind of strange for French people,
but we don't really talk about sex with our parents.
That's surprising. I thought French people were very open minded.
Compared to all the other Europeans countries, Switzerland...
tends to be more conservative.
We would never talk about sex with our parents.
But we get our sexual education at school.
At least Switzerland has sexual education.
For us, talk about sex is strictly prohibited.
We can't talk about it with our parents and they don't teach us about it in school.
- Then, how do you learn about it? - How?
We tend to learn it from friends.
- Isn't it kind of dangerous not getting educated about sex? - Yes.
Yes. It's problematic how there's no education for this.
But we're not even allowed to talk about having a girlfriend or boyfriend.
Because if we do, that will lead straight to marriage.
(It'll lead straight to marriage.)
- If you tell them, you have to marry them? - Yes.
We believe a man and woman should be together only when they marry each other.
There are countries where you can talk about sex and countries where you can't.
Let me ask the representatives what they would do in this type of situation.
While watching a movie with your parents, an erotic scene suddenly starts playing.
Do you just watch it nonchalantly?
Or do you leave the room?
I was watching something with my mother when something kind of sexual came on.
She suddenly started yelling at my dog, Toto.
I felt so sorry for him. He peed on the floor three hours earlier.
"Why did you do that?"
The dog was so surprised.
- The dog was just sitting there... - He was just watching it too.
- But what? - It was really awkward.
I'm sure you all have similar experiences. Let's start.
Let's vote. Will you keep watching it like nothing's wrong?
If you will, raise your hand. In 1, 2, 3.
(I'll keep watching 5, I'll leave the room 8)
You'll just keep watching it?
Wouldn't it be better to keep watching it as if nothing's wrong?
You never know. My parents might like it more than me.
That's true.
If I changed the channel, they might not like it.
- So it's better to just watch it. - It'd be more weird to change the channel.
Me too. Although it would bother me,
I would fix my eyes on the TV...
and try my best to avoid...
looking into my parent's eyes at all times.
It'll be so awkward. Actually, standing up and leaving would be even more awkward.
Mark, you can do that because you're an adult now.
But let's say...
you did that when you were nine years old. That would have been hard.
Back when I was nine, I was watching "Born on the Fourth of July" with my mother.
- It was super intense for me when I was nine. - Really?
("Born on the Fourth of July", Tom Cruise volunteer...)
(himself for the navy and witness the reality of war.)
If I see it now, it was nothing. But back then, it was...
- For one month, - For one month?
I kept thinking about it...
It kept making me think about it.
- Even now? - You shouldn't watch any French movies then.
Then, you might be shocked when you come to Japan.
In Japan, it was really bad in the past.
- Whenever it was 7pm or 8pm, - Yes?
they would expose nudity on variety shows. - On variety shows?
You'd be eating with your family during those times.
My mother would suddenly go into the kitchen to peel some fruits.
- She always has to have some fruits. - You must have eaten a lot of fruits.
If there aren't any fruits, she'd have nothing to peel.
- My father would go to his study and start reading a book. - So suddenly?
For the sake of health and knowledge...
They would get up at the same time every night.
I would just sit there and watch it alone.
- I see. - I see.
For me, I watched a very shocking movie...
called "Lies" back then.
Isn't that movie filled with those kind of scenes?
The whole story is about that.
One day, out of the blue, my mother asked me if I've seen that movie.
Since I was in my twenties, I said, "Yes, Mom. Why?"
She asked, "Oh, what did you think about what they did in those scenes?"
Just like "American Pie",
it was like she was saying, "I'm going to teach you about sex in a very cool way."
It felt something like that.
- So? - That's so awkward.
- That was the first time she ever said the word "sex" in front of me. - What?
- It was because I was an adult. - I see.
"There are a lot of movies about sex..."
"but I felt that the movie 'Lies' approached that subject in an unique perspective."
"Yes." We were both trying to act so cool.
Both us were trying to act so cool, even though the word "sex" was bothering us.
"I also watched a lot of movies about sex."
- "But..." - Look at his face.
Why are you bragging about that to your mother?
"But I have to admit, 'Lies' made me feel uncomfortable."
"But there are a lot of other great sex movies."
(He recommended different movies to his mother.)
We both tried to act so cool.
We talked about the topic of sex.
What about politics?
Let's see if we talk about politics with families too.
Do you think it's good for families to talk about politics?
If you think it's good, raise you hand. In 1, 2, 3.
(It's good 11, It's not good 2)
Only Mark and Tristan didn't raise their hands.
It's not good. There's a saying in America...
where you shouldn't talk about politics or religion with your family.
- We shouldn't talk about those two things. - Aren't those because of Trump?
It's because all we'll do is fight and it'll never get resolved.
It's a common scenario.
Every year, during Thanksgiving,
our families gather together...
and start fighting once someone mentions politics.
They always talk about who they support...
and fight when they talk about politics.
- Some people get so angry they leave the table. - It's the same as Korea.
And no one ever changed their minds...
through those fights.
You recently had your presidential election.
If you were living in America and Trump and Hilary showed up on TV,
you wouldn't say something like "This person's not that great" to your parents?
- If I say something like that, it'll just be endless fighting. - Really?
Yes.
I actually talk a lot about politics with my father.
I think it's something that's very important.
I think it's important for you to listen to many...
different opinions before you make your own.
I agree that's important.
But you'll be brainwashed if you listen to your father.
That's very dangerous. There's a reason why I stay away from political talks.
Looking at it historically, our ancestors have always been wrong.
Gender inequality, religion, and racial discrimination were rampant in our society.
People accepted those as a given.
But as our world develops more,
I feel we should be more open-minded to progress.
That's why I don't talk about it on purpose.
The biggest reason I don't talk about politics...
is because I don't want there to be rifts between the family.
- They'll fight. - Yes. I think the best option...
is to talk with an open mind.
Instead of forcing my thoughts on my parents,
- if I only just share what I think about the matter... - That's hard.
It's not easy to stop there.
For example, you're watching TV when someone comes out.
"What a complete eyesore."
"You don't have to think the way I do."
No one would act like that.
Most fathers go, "He lied last time."
"He shouldn't be elected this time. But son, you shouldn't think like me."
This will never happen.
- Japan isn't very interested in politics. - Yes.
We don't even talk about it.
But it's starting to change. Just last year, they lowered the voting age to 18.
People started to talk more about it. There was a survey...
asking if 18 and 19 year-olds spoke about politics with their family.
- Apparently 38 percent said they did. - They did?
Yes. Things are slowly starting to change right now.
- The politicians might be getting scared. - What about you, Oogi?
I don't really talk about it.
- Je-moon? - Yes?
- Do you ever talk about it with your daughter? - About politics?
He's moving the show for us.
Yes.
I raised my hand, agreeing we should talk about politics.
Although I agree, I don't really talk about it at home.
My kids are always busy with hagwons and I'm always busy with my schedule.
We just don't really talk about it.
So-min? You haven't talked to your father for nine years once?
It wasn't really nine years...
but he hasn't spoken to me, ever since I told him I would become an actress.
- Oh. - I see.
- You lied to your father about your major? - Yes.
I used to dance all through my high school years.
But suddenly, when I was a senior,
I completely changed my major,
took the test in secret...
- And became an actress? - Yes.
- That's when he cut off contact with you? - Yes.
We have similar kinds of situations in Japan too.
- We call those people toxic parents. - Toxic parents?
They're being toxic to their children.
We were just talking about her father...
- Are you calling her father toxic? - No, I...
- meant... - That was kind of rude.
I'm just saying there are those kinds of situations happening there too.
When did your relationship get better?
When I entered college, I would appear in several TV commercials...
before I landed any major roles. He would secretly look at all of them.
- Oh. - He wouldn't let it show but he was still supporting me.
And I think time helped us resolve our issues.
- My father got a little more lenient. - It's because you're bringing in the money.
(It's because you're bringing in the money.)
Her father cares more about the money?
- What if your daughter secretly transferred majors... - I wouldn't be against it.
I would let my kids do what they want to do.
I guess he's not a toxic parent.
He's a good parent.
Good parent.
(Happy)
Let's listen to some issues that started from a parent child conflict.
There's this saying in China.
"You can't let yourself fall behind in the start of the race of life."
Our parents tend to place huge expectations on us.
"You should be able to do everything."
That's why recently,
a father of a seven year old was trying to force him to do math.
He tied up his child and hung him over a river...
- What? - He hung him over a river and kept asking him math questions.
- He hung him over a river and ask him math questions? - That's ridiculous.
(An incident that can be seen as child abuse.)
(Dad!)
(Help me!)
(Stop punishing me!)
(Listen to the first question.)
(I'll listen.)
(Let's start.)
- In France, there was a candidate named Marine Le Pen. Do you know her? - Yes.
She's the candidate for the National Front party.
But that party was originally made by her father.
But as soon as his daughter became a leader of that party,
she started to change her father's policies.
Eventually, she kicked her own father out of that party.
(I clearly told my father that...)
(I won't work together with him in politics.)
(My father thinks he should come back to politics for us to make amends.)
(But I won't be mending our relationship any time soon.)
Her father got angry at her and as a revenge, stated he won't be voting for her.
He said that to his daughter? Because he was kicked out?
In New Jersey, America, a high school student named Rachel...
didn't follow her parent's rules and eventually ran away from home.
She went to live in her boyfriend's house and graduated from high school there.
She wanted to go to college, so she...
asked her parents to pay for her college but they refused her.
Besides, she already left them on her own free will.
- She filed a lawsuit saying they should pay for her tuition. - Wow.
There are so many lawsuits in America...
but it's very rare for a child to sue her parents.
Everyone was shocked.
The judge listened to both parties and dismissed the lawsuit.
(In trying to figure out how this family can somehow be brought back together...)
(She's always going to be your daughter and you're always going to be her parents.)
Eventually, the girl came back to her parent's house.
But recently, she got herself admitted into college...
- by getting a scholarship. - A scholarship?
Something similar happened in Italy too.
One man had a son who was 28 years old.
He wasn't applying to any jobs and was living off by getting child support from him.
The father submitted an application to the court,
saying he wanted to stop paying child support.
- But they ruled that he had to continue paying for child support. - That's unusual.
Concerning child support, America and Italy reached different verdicts.
What do you think is the appropriate age to stop child support?
The fact that you have to pay for them...
when they reach adulthood doesn't make any sense.
In Italy's case, that guy was 28 years old.
Child support is for children.
Someone who's 28 is not a child. He's 30 in Korean age.
- But wait... - But student loans...
But he is his child.
He's not a child.
No, he is his child.
He's that man's child.
- We just say child. - What do you call children in English?
Son and daughter?
- Child can mean children. - Not that one.
- But it can also mean someone's baby. - Yes.
Even if he's 50, his father can still say, "He's my child."
- Yes. - Does that mean he has to pay for him forever?
Regardless, he was born in this world because of the parent.
- As long as you provide for them until college... - That's too long.
- It's way too long. - I think you should support them forever.
- Oogi, you think they should support them forever? - Yes.
- Forever? - It's because...
Even though he's legally an adult...
Even within regular families,
when you leave your parent's house, you still get money from your parents.
- We don't get any money here. - We don't.
We get money from them in Japan.
I want to ask Oogi something.
When you have a son...
If your son didn't work and stayed home all day...
and asked you to give him 50 dollars every day, would you?
What if he's 40 and plays computer games all day?
If that was really my son,
I think it's all right to give him money.
- But... - But?
I would pay for him until he finishes college.
After he graduates, my support for him will gradually decrease...
(He takes a step back from his previous statement.)
- You got quieter as you said that. - Alberto?
If you have raised your children well, they won't...
- want to burden their parents. - That's right.
- But... - Also, Lucky said it before.
The parents are responsible when the child is born.
- Any they're responsible for the education. - Of course that's true.
If I had to decide, then I think it should be from when you're 18 years old.
- I think it's best when the parents start to pressure the child from 18. - Right.
- Right. - My parents pressured me from when I was 16 years old.
My parents told my siblings and I that we should try to earn our own money.
They started to stop giving us pocket money.
But that didn't mean they stopped completely.
We earned money by doing part-time work.
However, my parents would also sometimes ask if we needed money.
- They'd give it to us if we needed it. - It's similar with us.
In the US, we feel like you're a grown-up when your 18.
They become independent too.
A lot of parents still pay for their children's university tuition.
A lot of young people think that this is normal.
- It's not normal. - They should be grateful.
I feel like they need to be grateful to their parents.
Aren't there a lot of problems that occur because of the tuition fees?
- There is. - You start off in debt as soon as you graduate.
Yes. So, I have a debt of 3,000 dollars.
For us, without our parents support,
we can't attend a university.
Even with a scholarship it's still not enough, so we have to do part-time work.
The situation always occurs when we have to do part-time work.
The company who asks for part-time workers...
also abuse these young people with work.
There are many problems like this that happens.
In Germany, the law states a person can receive money until they're 26.
- It's the age that you graduate and get a job. - That's a good age.
However it's not enough money to live off.
It's just enough to support the basic necessities.
You'll need to find a job.
I feel that this is actually a nice law.
What do the two of you think? Je-moon, what is your opinion?
I feel like I need to support my child until she becomes independent.
- Until she's independent. - Right. Until she gets married.
- You're not going to help her become financially independent? - She has to do that.
She has to do that herself?
- Will you help her if she asks? - Of course.
- What if she wants to live in Daechi-dong? - I'm not the one who manages the money.
(I'm not the one who manages the money.)
You can make the decision,
- but your wife is the one who has to give her the money? - She does it.
I just tell her to talk to her mom about it.
"Talk to your mom."
He's just passing it on.
- What about you, So-min? - I'll pay for her until she graduates.
It's because, that's what my father has said he'd do.
- You'll pay for her education? - Yes, I'll pay for her education.
But after that, it's up to her.
Didn't you work as an actress while you were attending university?
- Yes, I did. - Doesn't that mean you earned money while you studied?
- I worked and studied... - Why are you interested in her earnings?
- Exactly. - Why are you interested in that?
It would have been enough for your university tuition.
My parents paid for my tuition, but I paid for everything else.
- They paid only for your tuition. - Yes.
All right. We spent today with Je-moon and So-min.
- And we're talking about issues that are related to family. - Yes.
There are times when a parents words can cut deep.
What was the most painful thing that your parents have said to you?
My mom said, "You'll be 30 soon, but you have no thoughts about your future."
"If I hadn't given birth to you, I'd be doing something important."
"I wasn't someone who was destined to live in the countryside with your dad."
"It's all your fault."
Why did she say that to you?
If someone attacks me, she would ask why I wouldn't retaliate.
"Why are you just standing there? You have nothing in your head."
- You should take revenge. - "An eye for an eye."
His mom is a very passionate person.
My mother looked at me and said...
"Christian,"
"You're the same as your dad."
- That's what Korean mothers say. - I thought I was watching a Korean drama.
- That sounds like something my mom says. - I mean...
Are you auditioning for a role?
- Did he pass? - You pass.
She said that.
Could you say that in Spanish?
(Saying the line like an actor)
She said it like that.
- He's my dad, so genetically, we'd have similarities. - Yes, you would.
- What did I do wrong? - This would make you feel bad...
in any situation.
If you did something good, she'd say it was because you're like her.
- Right. - "You're similar to me."
- Right. - "You're my son."
- Right. - That's similar.
I wasn't very good at sports when I was in high school,
but I tried hard because I wanted to win an award.
I wasn't good enough, so I didn't get the award.
I was so depressed, and I went home and cried.
My dad came in. I expected him to cheer me up.
However, my dad is a very rational person.
"Mark, what's the criteria for this award?"
"You need to receive this many points, right? You didn't attain it."
"You should've expected that. Why didn't you prepare?"
He was talking to me in a very rational way.
- You wanted him to be nice. - That would've hurt.
I wanted him to comfort me but he didn't, so I cried.
- He must've thought it was comforting words. - It made this worse.
- I cried even more. - Parents are all the same.
When we were growing up, they'd use examples of famous people.
- "Do you know how hard Gandhi studied at your age?" - It's the same.
I didn't tell my dad what I was thinking when he said that.
I was thinking, "Nehru was Prime Minister at your age, Dad what are you doing?"
I wanted to say it, but I couldn't.
- He'd call you an ungrateful son. - Right.
Why are you comparing me to someone else?
Hyun-moo, what about you?
- Me? - Yes.
I was disappointed by this comment,
I was receiving an award and my mom said,
"I received a lot more awards when I was your age."
"Are you satisfied with just this one award?"
I asked where she kept her awards.
She told me that the awards had been washed away by the flood.
I wondered why my mothers awards got washed away. Mine were just there.
Why did the flood only take my mom's awards?
- There was a lot of floods back then. - Yes, there was.
What about you, So-min?
For me,
I think most of the nagging comments that my mom made were similar to that.
I would like it if she didn't nag me.
My mother has a similar personality to Mark's dad.
- She's cold and analytical. - Yes, she is a little.
- She's very rational. - Yes.
Even if I fell down and hurt myself as a child,
my mom would say, "You should have been more careful when you walked."
- "What did I tell you?" - I have a lot of disappointments from when I was young.
Now that I think about it, I do something similar to my child.
I don't scold my daughter.
Rather I explain it to her, so it won't happen to her again.
I think my daughter might have thought I was very cold and rational.
I keep thinking that my parents could have added one more sentence.
If only she had said, "That must've hurt. It must've been painful."
"How about thinking about it this way next time?"
- Right. - It wouldn't have been something that was painful.
Let's talk about something nice. What was something that was heartwarming?
- Xinlin, there was something, right? - You heard something heartwarming, right?
- What was something that was heartwarming? - Xinlin, there was something, right?
Whenever I come back to Korea, my mom always says this to me,
"Your health is more important than the chase for success."
"I don't feel envious when I see other people's sons."
"I'm satisfied with you being my son. I'm happy."
"Remember this. Whoever and wherever you go,"
"you are my most precious and important son."
That's a completely different image from what we had imagined before.
- It's the complete opposite. - We wanted to say that to you, Xinlin.
Before you said, "If I hadn't given birth to you, I'd be doing something important."
"I wasn't someone who was destined to live in the countryside with your dad."
She says that when we fight at home.
She says it out of anger.
- I understand. - I feel a little bad to my brothers about tell you this story.
My mother came up to us one day and said...
"Christian, you're the most normal out of my three children."
(Laughing)
She's insulting her other two sons, right?
- She says it when she's fighting the other two. - That's not true.
Christian, I'm sure she said that to your other siblings as well.
- It was a touching moment. - He said it was a touching moment.
My parents got divorced when I was very young, so I never got to see my dad a lot.
We had a very uncomfortable relationship.
My father is also a very introverted person.
For a long time, I thought my dad did not love me.
In Korean age, I was around 17, and I was going to the US.
My dad said to me before I left, "I love you. I'm going to miss you."
That was a very touching moment for me. And I cried a lot.
My parents wanted to raise me as a sports athlete from a very young age.
I gave up on that dream, and started playing video games.
They worried that I'd be a loner in Canada if I only played video games.
They worried a lot, and they weren't happy.
However, after I competed in the world tournament and won, my dad said this to me,
"No matter what you do, as long as you come in first place, it's something amazing."
I personally feel that you don't need to hear praise from your dad.
- It's because... - As expected of the French.
my father cannot objectively evaluate me.
He can tell if his son is good-looking or is good at certain things.
You can't trust what your father says.
- That's true. - You can't trust what your father says.
- You can't trust him. - Has your father ever said that you were good-looking?
- Yes. - He's praised you for being good at something?
I have lived for many years as a single person.
"You're really good-looking."
"It'll be very easy for you to start a relationship."
- He's asking why you don't have a girlfriend? - Yes.
- You can't trust him. - He was praising me.
- Yes, you're right. - What did you say in reply?
Yes, that's right.
(He snorted.)
What was something touching that your parents said to the two of you?
(Thinking)
I don't think they ever said anything like that.
But they've seen your films, right?
- Yes. - They've come to your film openings.
- They must've said something after seeing it. - Right.
They said things when I was young.
They are proud of me now.
They come to see my movies with their friends.
- They brag about how your their son. - Yes.
You're very shy about this.
Don't you remember anything that they said?
"Je-moon, after watching your film..."
Please stop asking.
He's very shy. What about you, So-min?
For me it was when I was young,
do you remember how you have to write about your dream job?
- They asked you to write what your parents wanted you to be. - Right.
All of my classmate's parents had written down jobs.
My mother always wrote, "A happy person" in that box.
She probably wrote in small brackets lawyer and doctor.
"A happy doctor".
(Her parents wish)
"A happy lawyer".
- Back then, I didn't understand. - A happy lawyer sounds strange.
I wondered why they had written that on my form.
- That was really cool. - My mom always said this to me,
"It doesn't matter what you grow up doing."
"However, whatever you do and wherever you are, I want you to be happy."
This was the issue from the 144th Korean representatives, Je-moon and So-min.
We talked about how fathers and daughters struggle to understand each other.
How did you find the show?
It was fun. I didn't know that the time went so fast.
This is the happiest we've seen you today.
(Happy)
He's hitting the table because he's so happy.
- He's dancing. - I know.
(I'm so excited.)
So-min, as a passionate fan of this show, how did you find it?
I had so much fun today.
I will continue to watch this program with a grateful heart.
Okay.
- We have some sad news here. - Yes.
Up to now, Lucky has worked as the elderly man of the show,
- but due to some personal issues, today will be his last. - Yes.
First, I'd like to thank everyone here.
Due to my personal business, I have to leave the show.
I will never forget the fact that I was a Non Summit member.
Also, when you called me the elderly man of the show,
I don't think of it as referring to an old man,
rather I took it to mean that I was a very fun older brother.
Lucky, you're making me cry.
- You won't be gone forever. - Right.
I don't cry that often.
Give Lucky a big round of applause.
Thank you for all your hard work.
(Thank you for all your hard work until now, Lucky.)
(To try and stop the gender wage gap,)
(they want to make how wages are decided public information.)
(Why are you paying my colleagues more?)
(This will cause discord inside the company.)
(People might use silent bullying.)
(Society will change that.)
(On average, women get paid 21 percent less than men.)
(Revealing how much you get paid won't change anything.)
(Can this new proposal really be the solution?)
(The unsmiling Pierrot, Yoo Byung-jae)
(My job is to make other people laugh, but I can't laugh myself.)
(I like dark comedy.)
(A lot of people misunderstand me because of that.)
(The Pope, politicians, they can all be targets of satire.)
(Once you satirize someone, you won't appear on TV.)
(In Japan, they have a blacklist for comedians who do satire.)
(They have created a list of terrorists that they can kill without a trial.)
(An internet cafe blacklist.)
(It's to help students who are taking the College Scholastic Ability Test.)
(They reveal the variety of different blacklists in their country.)
(Yoo Byung-jae has a celebrity blacklist?)
We've never had a Korean representative like him.
(Please tune in next week.)
(Non Summit Meeting airs every Monday night at 10:50pm.)
("Each Other", the OST for the drama, "Daddy You, Daughter Me")
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